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About Plural Links

Okay, I'm noticing a LOT of people doing this. When making a page link PLURAL, as in [[High Priest]]s do NOT put the "S" INSIDE the [[Link]], like [[High Priests]] this. Instead, add the "S" to the OUTSIDE of the link, like [[High Priest]]s this. It's creating a lot of "wanted pages" and it's really time consuming to go through all of them and fix em. Thanks. --Resplendent 22:51, 17 September 2007 (MDT)

Another thing that is putting a very large number of pages on Special:WantedPages is articles are being copied and pasted, and when people see a link to Berserk Potions (or any item), and they simply change it to [[Berserk Potions]]. Double check links before doing this, many of them are originally Template:Item and actually are supposed to link to R.O.D.E.. If people dont want to look up ID numbers, thats perfectly fine, leave it as Berserk Potions, likely someone else will eventually change it --Biochemistness-76 00:10, 18 September 2007 (MDT)

Gif's vs Png's

At this point, we already have almost all the skill icons and a large number of item icons uploaded in .png format. There was some brief discussion on this topic, but the only contributions were regarding jpg vs png since screenshots are originally jpeg. If peoeple desire to use a different format across the wiki, there should probably be some further discussion on the topic rather than people just blindly changing templates back and forth.

(also, Template:Skill and Template:Skill List are serving the same function, one should be decided on and the other should be disposed of.)

--Biochemistness-76 18:22, 18 September 2007 (MDT)

There was some discussion about this on IRC a few minutes ago. I can post the log if interested, but consensus seemed to be that PNG was here to stay, at least for the things that used to be GIFs. Hadas 18:32, 18 September 2007 (MDT)

Template:Skill seems to be the more frequently used template; Template:Skill List is probably only used because it appears in the Templates Category, while Template:Skill doesn't (should be fixed if it's the one kept) --Reiko 04:00, 24 September 2007 (MDT)

Skill List was the one used on RI iirc. --Deviattor 10:08, 24 September 2007 (MDT)

Policy Development

I would like to see some actual coherent, consensus-supported policies come into existence here.

A potential skeleton for these could be:

• Editing Policy
  • iRO Wiki:Civility - Policies regarding dealing with other editors, such as assuming good faith, civility, etc.
  • iRO Wiki:Deletion - Policy regarding deletion of articles and other media on the wiki.
  • iRO Wiki:Protection - Policy regarding the protection and semi-protection of articles.
  • iRO Wiki:Moderator - Policy regarding the provision and revocation of sysop status as well as sysop-specific policies (e.g. policies regarding wheel warring)
  • iRO Wiki:Vandalism - Coherent policy against vandalism (with a definition of what vandalism is)
• Content Policy
  • iRO Wiki:Verifiability - Policy that verifiable information is preferable to non-verifiable information.
  • iRO Wiki:Use iRO - Policy that information from private servers is strictly prohibited and information from legal servers other than iRO (e.g. kRO) is less important (and less useful) than information from iRO.
• Style Policy
  • iRO Wiki:Manual of Style - Create a coherent theme that should be shared by all wiki articles. Should include a section on naming conventions as well.

Hadas 05:44, 19 September 2007 (MDT)

Deletion policy proposal has been made. Hadas 21:39, 10 October 2007 (MDT)

These are all currently in the main namespace, were they intended to be in the project namespace? I can see some value to having them (at this point) out of the project namespace, as that will allow people without sysop to edit/contribute to them. Though ultimately they should be in the project namespace.

Shouldn't we also have something along the lines of a Policy policy, so that we can lay out the formal approach to proposing, adjusting, and ratifying new policy

--Biochemistness-76 14:53, 15 October 2007 (MDT)

That would be a good idea too. Hadas 16:04, 15 October 2007 (MDT)

iRO Wiki:Policies and Guidelines Hadas 07:10, 17 October 2007 (MDT)

Maintenance Script

The maintenance script apparently did not preserve any of the page information associated with any of the images. So it seems all the images are without categories, and any images that may have previously had descriptions no longer do. Can this be solved by some simple tweaking of the script, or will categories & descriptions need to be manually added every time the script runs? --Biochemistness-76 15:11, 26 September 2007 (MDT)

The maintenance script was a one time deal. We totally reinstalled the wiki and transferred everything over via importing and that script. It won't happen again, but I think we'll probably have to manually redo everything that is missing, sorry. Beats having a broken wiki though! --Resplendent 16:11, 26 September 2007 (MDT)

Policies and Guidelines

If anyone who wishes to vote hasn't voted yet, please express your opinions of the proposed policy iRO Wiki:Policies and Guidelines on its talk page. Thanks. Hadas 19:09, 3 November 2007 (MDT)

Kafra Shop and VAS Pages

It'd be nice if there was page describing, in general, how the KS functions, its benefits, and payment methods for iRO in particular. Since this isn't a wiki for any other version, I wouldn't worry about how others do it, especially since it would probably only confuse people. We might also want to do pages for the Value Added Services, since there's soon to be a Stat Reset along with the original two. --Resplendent 00:00, 8 November 2007 (MST)

Moderator Roll Call

As I'm not quite sure who is actively viewing the wiki from the wiki mod team these days, I would appreciate it if all mods would sign under this section within a week of this message being posted. --Resplendent 02:06, 2 March 2008 (MST)

Hello Resp --WK 05:39, 2 March 2008 (MST)

Herro. Hadas 05:51, 2 March 2008 (MST)

In this place right? --NeoSaro 13:32, 2 March 2008 (MST)

witty comment. --Biochemistness-76 14:14, 2 March 2008 (MST)

Hmm. --Deviattor 14:30, 2 March 2008 (MST)

Present and accounted for. Kuro 20:06, 2 March 2008 (MST)

 :( --Rav 23:49, 15 April 2008 (MDT)

Project Ideas

• Organize Weapon pages, they need it...
• Forging materials for weapons put on forge page in organized table.
• Job Change guides for all classes. These are in need of organizing as well, they're all over the place. Some are integrated into the class's article and others are separate. Need to decide how to do them.

I'm thinking for this maybe have a First Classes Job Change Guides page with all 6, then a different guide for each 2nd class, and an Expanded Classes Job Change Guides page for Super Novice, Gunslinger and Ninja.

• Lots of missing skill desc images (for active skills which should have one)
• Episode 11.3 related content - War of Emperium 2, Mercenary System, God Items Quest 2.

New Search Engine Trial

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Special:SphinxSearch

Give this a whirl, and leave comments to what you think about it. If it seems to run smoothly enough we'll replace the main search with it. --Bluedreams 23:03, 25 March 2008 (MDT)

Switching DBs

Biochemist brought this up on IRC a bit ago, and I think it'd be a good idea if we can get assurances from Soukosa that Amesani will be up for the foreseeable future. Comments? --Resplendent 09:51, 7 May 2008 (MDT)

RODE seems a bit slow as of late, and to a noticeable extent doesn't have complete 11.3 info up. (Presumably in anticipation of RODE2). Amesani on the other hand seems to have more of its info up to date but is a slightly different look & feel for people to get used to. Too much switching around is probably not a good idea, (so it would be good if amesani is around long term).

If RODE is to become defunct (in favor of RODE2), we will at some point need to adjust where the templates link.

--Biochemistness-76 17:04, 7 May 2008 (MDT)

Sou seems to think she'll be around a bit, so unless anyone has an objection I'll change it over once she changes the URLs. --Resplendent 09:27, 8 May 2008 (MDT)

Any chances of getting StringFunctions added to the parser? Without it, i dont see anyway (backwards compatible) of making the current templates work with amesani's url's. (short of going and changing every use of them on every page, which would be sidestepping backwards compatibility) --Biochemistness-76 15:52, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

Installed. --Resplendent 23:12, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

Switch complete, examples on each of the template pages linked correctly, so everything should be in proper working order. --Biochemistness-76 23:48, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

Resource Request

Does anyone have the icons used for statuses in-game? I mean like the Increase agi icon, critical wounds, etc? It would be nice to have a legend on what each icon indicates. One last suggestion: Shouldn't the topics in this page be in reverse chronological order? --Steax 03:16, 30 May 2008 (MDT)

Doddler's Icon Guide. It might be nice to port a copy over to the wiki, i can spot at least 1 thing that should be changed. (slyness icon doesn't display in game.) --Biochemistness-76 12:31, 30 May 2008 (MDT)

Wiki Skin

I'm having trouble because of the reduced contrast. My eyesight is ok, but the contrast is too low in my opinion. Any possibility of providing a second, better-contrast alternate stylesheet? Technically, the current body text color (RGB 96 109 125) in grayscale is 110 (out of 255), in other words less than half contrast. I find it slightly painful. Links also need to stick out more, methinks. --Steax 23:48, 13 June 2008 (MDT)